Batterie Schenkung der Renaultbank

Hallo ,

ich habe gestern das Angebot von Renault Financial Service bekommen, die Antriebsbatterie geschenkt zu bekommen.
Das Angebot ist auf 2 Wochen befristet, ansonsten läuft mein Mietvertrag (der Ende Dezember ausläuft) wieder ein Jahr weiter.

Twizy ist jetzt genau 10 Jahre alt, mit 60.700 km, im September habe ich die Leistung nachmessen lassen, lt. Händler 88 %.
Die Fahrleistung ist aktuell schon deutlich zurückgekommen, früher kam ich 80 km weit, aktuell noch ca. 50 bis 55 km.

. Das Auto ist halt schon 10 Jahre alt, Scheibenbremsen wurden zwischenzeitlich erneuert, auch der Lader wurde vor 3 Jahren getauscht, aber insgesamt merkt man das Alter schon ein wenig.

Mir ist schon klar, das sie einen Batterietausch wollen, allerdings könnte ich nun für 1,5 Jahre bis Ende Tüv umsonst fahren.

Hat sonst auch jemand so ein Angebot erhalten ?
Macht es Sinn das Angebot anzunehmen ?

Danke für Rückmeldungen

Den Satz verstehe ich nicht.
"Mir ist schon klar, das sie einen Batterietausch wollen, allerdings könnte ich nun für 1,5 Jahre bis Ende Tüv umsonst fahren."

Wer ist sie ? Renault ?

Entschuldigung, ich meinte dass sie einen Batterietausch vermeiden wollen, die 75 % Grenze ist ja nicht mehr weit

Mein Twizy hat erst 13000km auf dem Deckel, der SOH lag vor einem Jahr noch bei 96% und ein Rückgang ist nicht zu merken. Da hab ich nicht lange überlegt und hatte 2min nach Brieföffnen auf "Schenkung angenommen" geklickt.

Ist halt wie bei einer Versicherung, geht morgen die Batterie kaputt beisse ich mir in den A..., kann ich noch 2 oder mehr Jahre fahren hat es sich dann richtig gelohnt nicht mehr jeden Monat einen Fuffi abdrücken zu müssen.

So ein klein bisschen "no risk no fun"

Niederbayernallgäuer schrieb: Hat sonst auch jemand so ein Angebot erhalten ?
Macht es Sinn das Angebot anzunehmen ?

Ja.
JA!

www.twizy-forum.de/tipps-und-tricks-twizy/90158-batterie-schenkung-der-renaultbank ?

Niederbayernallgäuer schrieb: ... könnte ich nun für 1,5 Jahre bis Ende Tüv umsonst fahren.

... danach nicht mehr? Wenn er Dir "zuviel" wird.. ich würd ihn Dir abnehmen..

Back after a while to ask this question too!

(Sorry for the english)

I just got this letter too. I have the OVMS Tuning box, what is the quickest way to check the battery condition with the box/phone, and what should I look for?

I do notice my range is not the best, but it's also not bad... I guess? If I drive nice in the summer and stay under 50, I can get ~60km range. Drive 70 and above or treat it like a go-kart... well, then it drops to less than 30 pretty easy.

Edit, just ran out to the Twizy and it has 39100km's. I think it's a 2012... Sport.

Plugged in my OVMS to fiddle. Second question-Does current charge status matter when checking battery health? The car is at a bit above half-charge.

These are the values I found.

I figured I'd jump on over to this thread, as it's more complete

I just received this letter too.

My car is a 2012 Sport with 39100km's

If the OVMS is to be believed, with a bit over a half-charge and just plugging it in it tells my my battery SOH is at 79% (I don't leave it attached, my Twizy likes to drain it's 12v battery somehow if it sits for more than 5 days, so I try to reduce any parasitic draws)

That's not THAT far from the 75% replacement threshold, but it sounds like Renault is being quite stubborn about replacing batteries... They realise they've broken even and are in the 'black' on costs, and don't want to loose that profit to replacing batteries, I assume.

(also sorry for english)

2002Scoob schrieb: If the OVMS is to be believed, with a bit over a half-charge and just plugging it in it tells my my battery SOH is at 79%

The SOH value is stored in the Twizy BMS.
It is not an "invention" of the OVMS.
So you can believe in OVMS and in the SOH too.
Also the SOH is independend to the state of charge (SOC)

In April 2021 I bought a 2012 Twizy with 36000 km and SOH 99%
Right now it has 38718 km and SOH 87%.
It seems that with growing age, the SOH goes down more quick
The SOH doesn't depend only on the km but on the age too.
Your SOH of 79% is more bad than mine, but I think that it will be only a matter of time until mine goes down again.

My advice to you:
Accept the present of the RCI.
Dealing with them to replace your battery will probably become impossible.

ad peter schrieb:
Jetzt hat es mich auch erwischt! Frohe Weihnachten!

Geschenk angenommen. Nun warte ich deren Antwort ab.

Renault will do, what they like.

Be pretty happy with a CAP of 100% - that means, your Battery is at best capacity.

Forget it, Renault will never change the rented battery.

If I drive nice in the summer and stay under 50, I can get ~60km range. Drive 70 and above or treat it like a go-kart... well, then it drops to less than 30 pretty easy.

Normal behaviour - if it makes you happier: my CAP is at 74%

Snorre schrieb:

2002Scoob schrieb: If the OVMS is to be believed, with a bit over a half-charge and just plugging it in it tells my my battery SOH is at 79%

The SOH value is stored in the Twizy BMS.
It is not an "invention" of the OVMS.
So you can believe in OVMS and in the SOH too.
Also the SOH is independend to the state of charge (SOC)

In April 2021 I bought a 2012 Twizy with 36000 km and SOH 99%
Right now it has 38718 km and SOH 87%.
It seems that with growing age, the SOH goes down more quick
The SOH doesn't depend only on the km but on the age too.
Your SOH of 79% is more bad than mine, but I think that it will be only a matter of time until mine goes down again.

My advice to you:
Accept the present of the RCI.
Dealing with them to replace your battery will probably become impossible.

Hmmmmh. Yes. I am strongly considering it, but also with your described dramatic decrease I also wonder if Renault knows something we don't (or are just figuring out). i.e., all of these batteries are rapidly deteriorating and now only have a very limited life left, and it's going to cost them a LOT to replace them. Better to offer a soon-dead battery for free than pay the cost to repair.

I have owned my Twizy for 3 years now, but don't remember the condition, or even original mileage.... 34 or 36k sticks in my head and it was purchased from a previous board-user so I'm sure there's something here to state it from his ownership. But should you chart a graph of your SOH decline it appears a bit 'exponential' and there might only be a few useable years left of our packs, if that.

newbie schrieb: Be pretty happy with a CAP of 100% - that means, your Battery is at best capacity.

This value is fake news.
It is the factory setting of OVMS for a brand new battery.
This value only changes when then OVMS is connected to the Twizy all the time, especially while charging .

newbie schrieb: Be pretty happy with a CAP of 100% - that means, your Battery is at best capacity.

Das wäre erstaunlich. Vermutlich wurde das OVMS zum ersten Mal eingesteckt und die 10 Ladezyklen zur Erkennung der Kapazität wurden noch nicht gemacht.

Yes I can confirm, I keep my OVMS unplugged, and only plugged it in to check the SOH.

My Twizy has some parasitic losses that I haven't been able to track down that will drain the 12v battery in about a week or so, and I also find that if the OVMS is left plugged in, it will occasionally revert back to factory tuning values.

Therefore I just keep it disconnected. I would guess that by connecting it now I'll probably have to reset my tune. Whomp-Whomp. heh.